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Ramal
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10 months ago
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Recommendations for Training on Automating WinForms Applications Using TC

 As a user of TestComplete for automating regression test suites for a WinForms-based Pharmacy Management application, I have found the resources provided by SmartBear Academy helpful but somewhat li...
  • rraghvani's avatar
    rraghvani
    10 months ago

    You are better off reading and seeing some of the video tutorials on TestComplete here https://support.smartbear.com/testcomplete/docs/index.html. It's very simple to learn providing you know the basics first, and majority of the content is clear and simple to follow.

    Not forgetting, the community forum can help too.

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todd2
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10 months ago

rraghvani,

I would like to add a comment to this posters (Ramal) comments.  I feel that the videos and the community while helpful does not compare to an ILT led classroom.  In an ILT Instructor Led Classroom Training classroom, you are able to put your use case example up on the screen and together people can work through that problem and challenge together.  From the ILT, cross communities are formed and cultivated as well as the SmartBear community to further grow all communities at large from the smaller more advanced ILT subset of students.  I find also find that the videos are helpful but they dont uncover real powerful things TestComplete could do for an organization.  For example, I believe the keyword tests are something you can do if your tests are small in nature.  But, if your tests span multiple URLs and involve grids and dynamic elements, you really should look at a programming course to handle TestComplete to UI sync issues with waits not just delay in keyword tests.  We need to cut down on TestCOmplete failures during AUT and to do that you really need an ILT course.  It appears to me by the answers here and elsewhere (my own inquiring on the web) that TestComplete is not offered in a classroom setting.  PLease correct me if I am wrong.   Thank you. 

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rraghvani
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10 months ago

From personal experience, I did do a training course on TestComplete, organised by the company. Unfortunately, I and my colleagues gained nothing from it, it was a waste of three days. However, that doesn't necessarily mean that others will not gain anything from it. 

All my knowledge on TestComplete, is gained from the reading the online documentation, and learning from the sample codes that are provided.

The most important part of TestComplete, is ensuring you fully understand how Object Identification works, and how TestComplete uses this to identify UI objects. 

As for "specific use case", I'm not sure what issues Ramal is having?

Can you provide an example of "advanced concepts such as handling UI complexities"?

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    todd2
    Contributor
    10 months ago

    Ramalis having problems with Winforms and TestComplete.  Hey Ramal have you ever heard of a guy named Lino?  Look him up on Udemy.  Lino I think the last name is Torvalds.  He runs a company if not vaporware, called The Training Boss.  I have left him messages there and elsewhere and no one responds.  Anyway, he has a class Ramal on TestComplete; several.  One of the units in his class, I have it I have taken it, it goes over Winform testing with TestComplete.  I think it is something you want to see. 

    As for my issues with TestComplete, I see it fail multiple times throughout a test.  I have to stop the test, put my cursor on the keyword step that broke and replay from that spot.  The test will move forward to the next break.  We have grids in our software with data in them and to get to them it is tough because the elements are dynamic.  I know.  I know.  Remove the dynamic part of the xpath and then it will hit.  Its just the time and the day.  I wish I did not have to click save twice on my changes for them to commit to the name map editor.

    Thats why I thought there may be a way to take a class on advanced TestComplete that would teach TestComplete code.  The best language to use for the beginner to use to turn the recorded script from keyword to Unit1 (what I see in the top left treepanel).  Because they syncing issues and use of delays is tough to keep the UI in sync with the engine.  Also to learn how to tie TestComplete to JIRA so artifacts test artifacts can record to JIRA automatically so I dont have to cut and paste from the UI the banner manually after each test to JIRA manually.  I also want TEstComplete to tie to Jenkins so when a software release is released the test kicks off and keyword test no not reliable enough.  

    See in our world we are a fintech and you can never ever have a failure.  I know you will say that is on you the test writer.  But, I see the engine actually fail after it hits the first time and then goes back tries it again and the red box that highlights the element does not hit again.  

    As for examples to post, I cannot due to policy privacy policy but, I can come to a class and I can bring other examples to the class that are approved prior to my arrival to share.  I have been using TestComplete for going on three years now.  I see such potential for this tool if it was just unleashed from its AI that is a nice start but not where I think AI can go.  I see SmartBear bought QMetry.  Interesting.  

    I also know how to identify objects because I live in Object Spy.  I am constantly using Object Spy to see what has changed in the underlying object properties.  I know how to use the Name Map Editor which to me is like WIndows Explorer for TestComplete.  We use the new method of Xpath to identify objects not the old TestComplete way.  We are an XPath shop.  

    I need to cut the failures down to increase resiliency, reliability more tests throughout the day.  

    How about a book on advanced TestComplete v15.69.139.7 topics? 

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      todd2
      Contributor
      10 months ago

      thank you

      -Todd2

      I hope Ramal gets help

       

      • todd2's avatar
        todd2
        Contributor
        10 months ago

        Oh and I used to work at a CTEC.  Microsoft CTEC  Certified TEchnical Education Center.  We could not take a class until we passed the prereqs.  So, before coming to your class with your colleagues, I would have to pass a prereq class first. 

        -Todd2