I opened a support ticket inquiring about the same on in Dec 2011.
We found that the automated testing bridge didn't really add any value. We report on the automated executions via an in-house tool. This does mean we're using QAComplete less and less as we implement more automation.
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Smartbear responded:
> Currently they two are completely different and separate. We are looking into some more robust traceability and reporting with a QACloud project that's coming up. I think you'll be able to link automated tests to requirements to view coverage. Not sure if that's exactly what you are looking for.
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The impressions I got was that SmartBear treats manual and automated tests are completely separate entities. some companies would agree, your and mine surely don't.
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thank you for your feedback.
At present, we have two projects going on with the goal to improve or replace the way of integration of our automated testing tools and QAComplete.
We understand that while the existing TestComplete bridge offers some value, it falls short of what most of TestComplete users that utilize extensive automation, need for reporting and testcase management purposes.
Would you be open to a phone converstation so that we better understand the details of how you run your automation and what specific capabilities you would expect from the upgraded connector?
Please feel free to email me directly at
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I assumed that if linked, that manual test would then be automatically passed / failed when the automation was run, I see no way to make this work? The rational of course is that manual ( now automated) testcase would completely define what the automation is doing.
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I assumed that if linked, that manual test would then be automatically passed / failed when the automation was run, I see no way to make this work? The rational of course is that manual ( now automated) testcase would completely define what the automation is doing.
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I opened a support ticket inquiring about the same on in Dec 2011.
We found that the automated testing bridge didn't really add any value. We report on the automated executions via an in-house tool. This does mean we're using QAComplete less and less as we implement more automation.
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Smartbear responded:
> Currently they two are completely different and separate. We are looking into some more robust traceability and reporting with a QACloud project that's coming up. I think you'll be able to link automated tests to requirements to view coverage. Not sure if that's exactly what you are looking for.
I opened a support ticket inquiring about the same on in Dec 2011.
We found that the automated testing bridge didn't really add any value. We report on the automated executions via an in-house tool. This does mean we're using QAComplete less and less as we implement more automation.
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Smartbear responded:
> Currently they two are completely different and separate. We are looking into some more robust traceability and reporting with a QACloud project that's coming up. I think you'll be able to link automated tests to requirements to view coverage. Not sure if that's exactly what you are looking for.
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So if I understand this, the methods to determine 'what' the automation is doing are (A) talk to the person that wrote it (B) look at the code / keyword test individually? This seems to be a pretty large gap in functionality. The marketing documents talk about automating manual tests which is a great idea, little did we know the two artifacts know nothing about each other. To answer the support persons question, no this doesn't help. I don't need a fancy cloud solution for the simple task of passing or failing a manual test case when a piece of automation runs. You guys just need to write a plugin which allows automation and testcases to know about each other, AND it needs to update pass / fail information. I'd imagine your devs could make something like that happen pretty quickly. 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So if I understand this, the methods to determine 'what' the automation is doing are (A) talk to the person that wrote it (B) look at the code / keyword test individually? This seems to be a pretty large gap in functionality. The marketing documents talk about automating manual tests which is a great idea, little did we know the two artifacts know nothing about each other. To answer the support persons question, no this doesn't help. I don't need a fancy cloud solution for the simple task of passing or failing a manual test case when a piece of automation runs. You guys just need to write a plugin which allows automation and testcases to know about each other, AND it needs to update pass / fail information. I'd imagine your devs could make something like that happen pretty quickly. 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I'd definitely open a support ticket requesting what you just said.. I'm fairly sure that nobody from SmartBear monitors these forums.
The impressions I got was that SmartBear treats manual and automated tests are completely separate entities. some companies would agree, your and mine surely don't.
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The impressions I got was that SmartBear treats manual and automated tests are completely separate entities. some companies would agree, your and mine surely don't.
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thank you for your feedback.
At present, we have two projects going on with the goal to improve or replace the way of integration of our automated testing tools and QAComplete.
We understand that while the existing TestComplete bridge offers some value, it falls short of what most of TestComplete users that utilize extensive automation, need for reporting and testcase management purposes.
Would you be open to a phone converstation so that we better understand the details of how you run your automation and what specific capabilities you would expect from the upgraded connector?
Please feel free to email me directly at
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thank you for your feedback.
At present, we have two projects going on with the goal to improve or replace the way of integration of our automated testing tools and QAComplete.
We understand that while the existing TestComplete bridge offers some value, it falls short of what most of TestComplete users that utilize extensive automation, need for reporting and testcase management purposes.
Would you be open to a phone converstation so that we better understand the details of how you run your automation and what specific capabilities you would expect from the upgraded connector?
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